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ROMAN NUMERALS
On Clock Faces


Compiled by Fred Kats

 A Roman numeral IIII on a public astronomical clock dial, Rouen c.1389.
Anno 1389

The subtractive notation of Roman numerals   -such as IV, IX, and XL-  evolved from an ancient primarily additive system. While ancient Romans occasionally used subtractive forms in inscriptions, they initially preferred simpler additive forms like IIII for four.

Throughout ancient times and the Middle Ages, the use of subtractive notation remained highly inconsistent. However, following the invention of the printing press around 1440, these compact forms gradually gained acceptance across Europe, leading to the standardized conventions we use today.

These conventions, however, were not universally applied. At the time the earliest clocks were made, the subtractive
IV was not used at all 6 7, and it remained uncommon on clock faces for centuries afterward.
 


 
CONTENTS

TABLE OF CONTENTS


The compact subtractive numerals


The established ancient IIII


The subtractive IV was rarely used


Roman numerals on dials through the ages


      Notes  & Acknowledgments



  Early dials as an introduction  

 



1580

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials. Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.

No subtractive numerals.
 c.1500                All additive escept for XIX  

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.

  No subtractive numerals c.1540           All additive except for IX and XIX.

Roman numerals on clock dials.

 
      England c.1370                 No subtractive numerals.

 

  THE COMPACT SUBTRACTIVE NUMERALS  

The shorter subtractive notation enabled better spacing and inclusion of half-hour markers, making it easier to read the time more accurately.

Roman numerals on clock dials.
        
A
stronomical clock Padua c.1344  
         Chapter version 19 th c.      

Yet, only the subtractive IX was universally applied, while the subtractive IV was not used at the time of the oldest clocks 6  7.

only the subtractive IX was universally applied on standard 12-hour dials, while the subtractive IV was

Like the earliest 24-hour public clock dials, early 12-hour dials used the ancient additive numerals as well, though the lengthy VIIII usually gave way to the compact subtractive IX, also avoiding crowding with VIII.

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A rare instance of the ancient additive numeral VIIII on a 12 hour dial appears on the south-west face of a tower in Udine, c.1527.

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
Torre dell’Orologio, La loggia di
 San Giovanni, Piazza della Libertŕ, Udine.

By contrast, the south-east face bears a later dial, driven by the same movement, employing the compact subtractive IX.
 


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T
he same building - La Loggia di San Giovanni - also featured a meridian noon sundial used to set the tower clock to 12:00 local time.

 


  The ESTABLISHED ancient IIII

Before 1657, mechanical timekeeping technology was notoriously inaccurate, with timepieces sometimes gaining or losing as much as twenty minutes. Hence, minute graduations were of little practical value.
Clocks equipped with a single hand and quarter-hour graduations, or with
quarter-chapters1, were already regarded as sufficiently precise for everyday purposes.


Heilbron c.1580

The hours were divided in
 quarters, not in minutes
.

In the course of the 16th century, the subtractive numeral IV appeared more in documents and inscriptions.

However, clock faces retained the traditional IIII, which proved especially practical on quarter chapters of early public and domestic clocks, many of which struck the quarters.

Here the sequence I-II-III-IIII correctly represents the number of strokes on the quarter bells.
  I-II-III-IV does not.

Since they provided a much valued audible time telling service5, quarter-striking public clocks became increasingly common from the 15th century onwards.

They marked the hours and quarter-hours by different chimes, making them easy to distinguish.


Subsidiary quarter chapters 1

Subsidiary quarter dial

Subsidiary quarter dial

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.


Central quarter chapters1. 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.


It was only with the advent of precision pendulum clocks in 1657 that central minute hands, pointing to Arabic minute divisions on the chapter-ring1, acquired real significance.



24 hour prayer timer dials
 
Roman numerals on clock dials.
Divided in 4 six hour sections

Roman numerals on clock dials. Italian 4-hour dial.

A 4-hour italian clock.

Roman numerals on clock dials.

 


 The subtractive IV was rarely USED

In comparison with the ancient additive 'IIII', the subtractive 'IV' was not widely used6. Although, it does appear on quite a number of later dials and its use increased somewhat throughout the 20th century, often on renovated tower clock faces.
A survey* of 211 Italian clocks with six-hour dials3 revealed that 14.2% featured a subtractive IV, some of which on restored chapters.



Padua 1665                Amsterdam 1659.  

In contrast to actual clock faces, these mid-17th-century prints reveal that the subtractive ‘IV’ was indeed used in pictorial representations.

The prints also suggest that the illustrators did not necessarily model their depictions on actual clocks.


Arezzo c.1552.
Archival records document several major interventions over the clock's history. Its present dial, with a frescoed 12-hour chapter, features a subtractive IV.


The Hague, Sept. 1658.
Subtractive IV on a drawing within the draft sheet of Christiaan Huygens' letter to John Wallis.

Codices Hugeniani, Hug 45.    Ben Hordijk, Rob Memel.

Subtractive roman numeral IV on the dial of a public clock in San Sebastián, c.1740.
Subtractive IV on the dial of a
 public clock in Tunbridge Wells, c.1760.

Subtractive roman numeral IV on the dial of a public clock in San Sebastián, c.1740.
Subtractive IV on the dial
 of a public clock in San Sebastián, c.1740.

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.

Clock dial with
subtractive IV, 20th c.
Palazzo del Sedile Matera.

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
Antide Janvier, c. 1805.
Perhaps the only time the subtractive IV was used by this esteemed French horologist.
 

La Pendulerie



Sundial with subtractive IV, a.d. 1509


Sundials divided daylight in two roughly 6 hour
sections at either side of the 'noon centerline'

Subtractive roman numeral IV on the dial of a public clock in Prague, 19th c.
A subtractive IV on the dial
 of a public clock in Prague, late 19th c.


Despite the dial’s narrow numeral cartouches, the compact subtractive IV proves an excellent fit, while the additive VIII had to be reduced in size.


A subtractive IV
employed in 1929.

Rijksmuseum

Roman-striking
Carter Marsh

The IV was also found on exclusive, late 17th c, clocks with a month going movement and Roman striking, an energy efficient system in which the number of chimes corresponded to the Roman numeral itself.

‘I’  = one stroke on a high bell,
‘V’ = one stroke on a low bell,
‘X’ = two strokes on a low bell.

At twelve o’clock the train strikes four times (V-V-I-I = XII); at four o’clock, twice (I-V).
The system requires only 60 strokes in 24 hours, against 156 on a conventional striking train. A considerable saving of energy, particularly for spring driven long-duration clocks.

 

 

roman numerals on dials through the ages

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14th century.


14th.   15th.  16th.  17th.  18th.  19th.  20th.   c.


Roman numerals on clock dials.
An Italian astronomical public clock dial with the hours counting from sunset 3. No subtractive numerals. Padua c.1344 (1437).

24-hour dials highlight that, unlike sundials, mechanical clocks are capable of keeping time around the clock, both day and night.

Roman numerals on clock dials.
An astronomical public clock dial, Lyon c.1383

A Roman numeral IIII on a public astronomical clock dial, Rouen c.1389.
A public astronomical
clock dial, Rouen c. 1389.

Wells Cathedral exterior.
Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
Wells Cathedral interior.
Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
The exterior and interior faces of
the Wells Cathedral turret clock,
c. 1390.

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15th century.


14th.   15th.  16th.  17th.  18th.  19th.  20th.   c.


Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
The dial of an Italian public clock, with the hours counting from sunset 3. The radially applied numerals accommodate the lengthy XVIIII and XXIIII. No subtractive numerals.

San Giacomo di Rialto,  Venice, c. 1410.

A roman numeral IIII on an Italian public clock dial with counter wise rotating hour hand, Florence c.1450
Another Italian public clock dial with a counter-rotating hour hand, like the nodus shadow on mural sundials. No subtractive numerals.

The Duomo Florence, dial painted by Paolo Uccello in 1443.

A roman numeral IIII on an Italian public clock dial with counter wise rotating hour hand, Florence c.1450
Another Italian public astronomical clock dial, with the hours counting from sunset3. 

Mantova c. 1473

A roman numeral IIII on an Italian public clock dial with counter wise rotating hour hand, Florence c.1450
A French public clock dial in Auxerre  c.1490.

 

bm16
16th century.


14th.   15th.  16th.  17th.  18th.  19th.  20th.   c.


Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
An astronomical public
clock in Chartres c.1525.

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
An astronomical public clock,
with the hours counting from sunset 3.
No subtractve numerals.

Brescia c.1540.

 
An Italian circular public mural sundial.

San Rocco church, Spilimbergo 1536.   Padre Garcia.

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A German table clock dial c.1560.

Roman numerals on the Uhrturm in Graz
A quarter striking public clock, the dial
 frescoed directly onto the wall of the Uhrturm in Graz, c.1569.

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
South Germany, with quarter chapter c.1580.

roman numerals on a table clock by Jost Burgi
A quarter chapter1 on the subsidiary dial of a late 16th c. German astronomical table clock.

The MET

 Roman numerals on an 'Italian time' lantern clock c.1580,
The dial of an 'Italic time'3 lantern clock c.1580, striking four 6-hour cycles per day. Its vertical center line accentuates the two 6-hour halves of the chapter1. The radial applied numerals allow space for the full additive VIIII.

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La Misura del Tempo


Colmar 1582.

 Roman numerals on an 'Italian time' lantern clock c.1580,
A silvered subsidiary dial with quarter chapter on a French Renaissance table clock c. 1589.

British museum

 

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17th century.


14th.   15th.  16th.  17th.  18th.  19th.  20th.   c.


A Roman numeral IIII on an 'Italian time' late 17th c. lantern clock dial.
Another 'Italic time'3 lantern clock dial c. 1600. Displaying 'sunset hours' within the first quarter of the chapter1.

J.Venema

Roman numerals on an English lantern clock dial  c.1623.
An English lantern clock dial c.1623.

Bonhams


The dial of a Dutch captain's watch witn moon-age
 and tidal information The Hague c.1630.
 
Rijksmuseum

The chapter ring1 of Christiaan Huygens' first pendulum clock, 1657.
The chapter ring1 of Christiaan Huygens' first pendulum clock, 1657, marking not just minutes, but a turning point in horological history. The dawn of precise timekeeping.

Museum Boerhaave

It’s a quarter to eight on this backlit Italian night clock dial from the late 17th century, with 'wandering hours' moving
It’s a quarter to eight on this backlit Italian night clock dial from the late 17th century, with 'wandering hours' moving across an ajour arc-shaped quarter chapter1.

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It’s a quarter to eight on this backlit Italian night clock dial from the late 17th century, with 'wandering hours' moving
It’s 20 to five on the dial of a late 17th c. English pocket watch with one finger pointing to a 'wandering hours' arc-shaped aperture and another finger pointing to a date aperture.

The MET

Roman numerals on the dial of an English longcase clock with Roman-striking c.1680,
The dial of an English longcase clock c.1678,
with calendrical, lunar, and tidal indications.

The MET

Roman numerals on the dial of an English longcase clock with Roman-striking c.1680,
The dial of an English
longcase clock with Roman-striking c.1680, hence the silvered chapter ring1 with subtractive IV.

Carter Marsh

Roman numeral IIII on an English lantern clock dial.
An English clock watch dial c. 1690, featuring a single hand pointing to quarter and five minutes divisions on the outer chapter1.

Pieces of Time
 

Roman numeral IIII on an English lantern clock dial.
An English lantern clock dial c. 1690,
Featuring a small alarm time setting disk, the single hand pointing to quarter divisions on the chapter ring1
.

The making of single-handed domestic clocks persisted until the early 19th century.


Carter Marsh
 


An English pocket watch c.1700.
The dial with 6-hour 'Italic time' 3 chapter
1,

Stephen Bogoff
 

bm18
18th century.


14th.   15th.  16th.  17th.  18th.  19th.  20th.   c.


Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
Augsburg c. 1710.
Shows the ongoing use of quarter marks.

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
Groningen c.1720.
Watch dial with 'Wandering hours' moving across semi circle minute and quarter chapters.

Roman numeral IIII on a 6-hour 'Italian time' lantern clock dial.
Weltenburg Abbey  c.1730.

Roman numeral IIII on a 6-hour 'Italian time' lantern clock dial.
A  6-hour 'Italic time'3 lantern clock dial,
with 12 o'clock extension, early 18th c.
 


Szczecin 1736
 

Roman numerals on a clock dial with 12 enamel cartouches  (cadran á douze) early 18th c.
A dial with 12 enamel cartouches (cadran á douze)
early 18th c.
 

Roman numerals on a mid 18th c. Louis XV French mantel clock dial.
A mid 18th c. Louis XV French mantel clock dial.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A mid-18th-century Italic time3 lantern clock dial featuring a quarter chapter1.

Quarter chapters had become increasingly uncommon over the course of the 18th century.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
The painted dial of a Dutch wall clock,
c. 1760.


Circular public mural sundial.
Italy 1767.

San Matteo Apostolo church. Borgo Velino. Padre Garcia
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A quarter striking Italian longcase clock with 'wandering' (rotating) 12 hour chapter1,
c. 1770.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
The lavishly decorated dial of a French table regulator clock c.1780, featuring equation of time, annual calendar, and signs of the zodiac.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
An English 24 hour tidal longcase clock dial with both additive and subtractive numerals four, c.1780.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A late 18th-century French mantel clock with a dial of refined decoration, also marking the days of the month.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
The horizontal rotating dial (cercle tournant) of a late 18th-century French vase clock.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A French mantel clock dial c.1795, displaying the newly introduced revolutionary Decimal Time4 on the inner chapter while the outer chapter retains conventional Gregorian hours.

 

bm19
19th century.


14th.   15th.  16th.  17th.  18th.  19th.  20th.   c.


Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A clean Empire wall clock dial, c.1810.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
The silvered dial of a Vienna regulator wall clock, c.1830.
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
The Gothic revival dial of the Westminster tower clock with subtractive IV, c.1859

Elizabeth tower

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A Neo Gothic English skeleton clock dial, c.1870
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A US Ansonia wall clock dial. New York, c. 1895

bm20
20th century.


14th.   15th.  16th.  17th.  18th.  19th.  20th.   c.


Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A German Jugendstil mantel clock dial
with subtractive IV, c. 1903

Quittenbaum

Roman numeral IIII on a Cartier desk clock dial.
An Art Deco desk clock dial, c. 1920

Marjan Sterk
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
An Art Deco mantel clock dial, c. 1925
 

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A Cartier carriage clock face, 'Cadran Breveté'
c. 1928

Bonhams

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
An Art Deco desk clock dial, c. 1929

Christie's

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
An Art Nouveau mantel clock dial with subtractive IV, 
G. H. Lantman c.1929.

Rijksmuseum

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
An Art Deco desk clock dial, c. 1929

Ms Rau

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
An Art Deco mantel clock dial, c. 1930

Roman Numerals on Clock Dials.
A J. L. Reutter
Art Deco Atmos clock dial, c. 1935

Gude Meis




Arabic numerals and non-numerical indices became commonplace over the course of the 20th century, gradually replacing Roman numerals, though not entirely.


14th.   15th.   16th.  17th.  18th.  19th.  20th c.




NOTES


1  Chapters.
In a horological context, a chapter is the scale of divisions and markings -such as numbers or signs- used to read the time and related indications on a dial. These markings may be engraved, painted, printed or otherwise applied, either directly onto the dial or on attached elements such as 'cartouches' or a 'chapter ring'.


2  Imbalances.
Correcting the IIII
–II imbalance would in turn create a new, albeit relatively minor, IV–VIII imbalance.
 

3  Italic 6-hour time.
The temporal system emerged in the Middle Ages in the Papal States, rooted in monastic timekeeping and canonical hours. The day began at the advent of the evening, about half an hour after sunset, and was divided into
four six-hour* segments. Consequently, such clocks need to be regularly synchronised with sunset.
By the late 18th and early 19th centuries, as standardization and modernization increased, the Italic six-hour system fell out of use in practical timekeeping.   
(many more 6 hour dials)

*
Sundials already measured the sun’s course in two roughly six-hour spans -one before and one after the noon reference line (mid-day).


4  French Revolutionary Decimal Time.
A short-lived system introduced during the French Revolution (1793–1805) as part of a broader attempt to decimalize all aspects of daily life (calendar, measurements, currency, etc.).
Each day was divided in 10 hours of 100 minutes.
Here is more on decimal time.


5  It can reasonably be assumed that the earliest late 13th c. monastic mechanical clocks indicated time by striking chimes rather than visually by means of dials.

6 
Bernard Roobaert.
....So the conclusion is simple: the dial of the oldest clocks and watches has a Roman “IIII” because “IV” was not used at the time.

 More on this subject


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals

8 Paul Lewis:  
....."Clearly there is much less power here in the symmetrical balance argument, the dial is not symmetrical anyway. The Arabic numerals do not balance and the two or three stars in each sector of the clock-face are certainly not arranged to match those in the sector opposite"......
http://www.web40571.clarahost.co.uk/roman/clockface.htm

7 Bernard Roobaert:
Peutinger Table (late 4th century)
.... uses additive notation: IIII, VIIII, XIIII, XXIIII, XXVIIII
Subtractive notation: IX, XIX, XXIX, XL, XLII
No mention of "IV"
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369661683

Bernard Roobaert.
....So the conclusion is simple: the dial of the oldest clocks and watches has a Roman “IIII” because “IV” was not used at the time.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369661600

Acknowledgments

Illustrations: Bonhams. British museum.  Carter Marsh. Gude Meis. Guiseppe Brusa, La misura del tempo. Joachim Köhler. Koller auctioneers. La Pendulerie. Bonhams. British museum. Carter Marsh. Gude Meis. Guiseppe Brusa, La misura del tempo. Joachim Köhler. Koller auctioneers. La Pendulerie. Yves Droz et Joseph Flores, Les Heures Revolutionnaires. Marjan Sterk. Mentink & Roest. The MET. Museum Boerhaave. Quittenbaum Kunstauktionen. Rijksmuseum. San Domenico Bologna. Sotheby's. Van Dreven. Wells Cathedral.
The Horological Foundation gratefully acknowledges
Jo Dickenson-Schepp for her highly esteemed contributions.

Links

Bernard Roobaert

Bonhams
British museum
Carter Marsh
van Dreven
GudeMeis
Koller auctioneers
Guiseppe Brusa La misura del tempo
La Pendulerie
Mentink & Roest
Museum Boerhaave
Quittenbaum Kunstauktionen

Rijksmuseum
The MET


This article is subject to ongoing updates.